# 029 – How to fight for what? I’m talking to Nelson and Galus from PACOS trust. They are both members of local indigenous communities and joined PACOS to empower native people to fight for their country. They share, how and why indigenous people are deeply connected to their country and can learn from their systems to live in harmony with nature. No land – No life.
As everything begins and ends with their country, laws and current regulations are a core issue. You want to learn, why it’s not about taking human beings away from natural resources and how they think about conservation. We touch on topics like climate change, government issues, palm oil and where they take their motivation to fight for their ancestor land every single day. This interview is in English and if you prefer to listen to the key facts, just jump to the last bit and get inspired.
Listen the their interviews here.